My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

View previous topic View next topic Go down

default My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

Post by Samt03 on Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:05 pm

Around 3-4 pm yesterday my power company/or their contractors came by and sprayed under the power line right of way with a herbicide.  The crew they had do it went way beyond their right of, spraying also my ceder tree, an entire bed of sweet pea, a tree we're turning into a bench/planter, and everything they could hit in a 5ft radios of their ATV.  They decided to drive onto my driveway and continued spraying everything they could hit.  The area they sprayed is within 50 feet of my house.  They did this while looking at my ducks, my flock of chickens, and myself (my cats luckily booked it for the barn when they heard the atv.)

As soon as they left my laying hen flock booked it over there to investigate and was playing around in the now sprayed flowers.  It's a flower bed of course, with nice soft soil they use as a hidey spot.  They don't damage the flowers so it works out well for both of us.  I'm now paranoid my birds will get sick, their locked up today so I can do health checks and keep them out of their favorite spot.  It's honestly a bit heart breaking to not see them running around the yard, their upset and crying by the gate to come out right now and I feel so bad for them.  I will now have to throw out several days worth of eggs, and cross my fingers I don't loose any of my birds.

The smell from the herbicide had me hiding in my house most of the day, with breathing problems.  Yesterday my throat hurt, my lungs hurt, and it felt like something in my throat was swollen.  Today I woke up with an insanely sore throat.  I'm chemical sensitive, the smells from them make me sick.

My farm is no spray/no chemical fertilizer, and we were working on certified organic status, two years into a 5 year no chemical thing.  We just lost that.  I'll be losing over 50 eggs that I do sell, additionally my feed bill will skyrocket this week as I free range everyone.  I have damaged/dead heritage plants now.  I'm looking at the possibility of loosing southern white pines, ceder trees, honey suckle among other plants, if not lost they are heavily damaged.  There's a possibility a peach tree, black berries, and blueberry bushes were hit as well.

I need damage control suggestions.  I need to know what exactly I can do to get this stuff off my property asap, to restore the balance of my land, and what can be done in the next few months.  My honey bees are arriving this winter/spring.  That bed was to be part of their food.

I also need ideas as to how and who I can contact to stop them from spraying this stuff.  They just started recently, it's not been a long going thing which I have no idea why it started.

Edit:
I should add they did not have my permission to do this, and I had no warning they would be, other wise everything would have been locked up and my windows would have been closed... in addition phone calls would have been made before hand.

I also don't know what they used, the company is closed till Tuesday due to the holiday here.


Last edited by Samt03 on Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:19 pm; edited 1 time in total
avatar
Samt03

Posts : 644
Join date : 2011-06-08

View user profile http://ravenhillfarmandmead.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

default Re: My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

Post by melodiccolor on Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:17 pm

This weekend, find every organic farmer fb page and forum you can, join and copy and post this.  They will have more leads on what you can do.

Tues, as soon as offices open, call the utility company and find out what was sprayed.  Call your doctor and do research on the herbicided sprayed.  Document all losses and submit a bill, the all the obvious stuff....

(quick review)
-look into getting a lawyer on contingency
-attend local govenrment meetings and speak up about what happened. First effective step to get the law changed.
-attend local organic marketing groups for further help

_________________
Life is complex.  Parts of it are real and parts of it are imaginary.  (read in a novel by Gregory Benford.)

Absurdity is one of the great joys of life.

All you need for a rich life is to see more.
avatar
melodiccolor
Admin

Posts : 11735
Join date : 2008-04-27
Location : The Land of Seriously Sombrerosy Wonky Stuff

View user profile

Back to top Go down

default Re: My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

Post by Reamsie on Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:08 am

Call your utility company and/or local government (I would do both) and find out if your state is one where property owners can obtain a "no spray" agreement.  In the simplest terms it would mean that you are agreeing to keep unwanted plants from growing around the utility pole if you do not want the company spraying chemicals on your property.  The link I posted is for an article that from 1999, but it gives some guidelines and some information that might be usable when you call.

The Right Way to Vegetation Management

_________________
What fun is being cool if you can't wear a sombrero!--Calvin, Calvin & Hobbes

People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey... stuff.--The Tenth Doctor, Blink
avatar
Reamsie
moderator

Posts : 1481
Join date : 2008-05-02
Age : 46
Location : In the TARDIS

View user profile

Back to top Go down

default Re: My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

Post by Samt03 on Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:07 pm

Reamsie wrote:Call your utility company and/or local government (I would do both) and find out if your state is one where property owners can obtain a "no spray" agreement.  In the simplest terms it would mean that you are agreeing to keep unwanted plants from growing around the utility pole if you do not want the company spraying chemicals on your property.  The link I posted is for an article that from 1999, but it gives some guidelines and some information that might be usable when you call.

The Right Way to Vegetation Management
Thanks, I'll get my husband to ask about this when he calls, & give this info to my parents too in case their farm gets sprayed.

Would honestly like to figure out how to totally stop the spaying since this is a recent thing and it upsets me to see dead plants all over the place.
avatar
Samt03

Posts : 644
Join date : 2011-06-08

View user profile http://ravenhillfarmandmead.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

default Re: My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

Post by Samt03 on Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:01 pm

Okay after an all day game of telphone calls, and I think them giving us the run around, finally spoke to the guy... at like 7pm...

Our property is now 'no spray' as long as we maintain the right of way. Called and told my parents the info and they'll be calling about theirs as well.
avatar
Samt03

Posts : 644
Join date : 2011-06-08

View user profile http://ravenhillfarmandmead.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

default Re: My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

Post by melodiccolor on Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:03 pm

What about compensation for lost property? Oh and get that agreement to not spray in writing...if the company they subcontracted with returns, you'll need it.

_________________
Life is complex.  Parts of it are real and parts of it are imaginary.  (read in a novel by Gregory Benford.)

Absurdity is one of the great joys of life.

All you need for a rich life is to see more.
avatar
melodiccolor
Admin

Posts : 11735
Join date : 2008-04-27
Location : The Land of Seriously Sombrerosy Wonky Stuff

View user profile

Back to top Go down

default Re: My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

Post by Samt03 on Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:14 pm

melodiccolor wrote:What about compensation for lost property?  Oh and get that agreement to not spray in writing...if the company they subcontracted with returns, you'll need it.
His excuse was 'oh you should have known cause we sent out a mailer' O.O

Not sure about the damages still though, that's in the figuring out stage. When I'm not in the middle of several things and trying to burn onions I'll call and ask for that.

I'm not done with this by far, I talked to locals who were ticked at the spraying so gonna get something started here.

The AMAZING thing was, he admitted if we had bees the spray would kill them. Flat out said it.
avatar
Samt03

Posts : 644
Join date : 2011-06-08

View user profile http://ravenhillfarmandmead.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down

default Re: My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

Post by Zen on Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:42 am

Samt03 wrote:
melodiccolor wrote:What about compensation for lost property?  Oh and get that agreement to not spray in writing...if the company they subcontracted with returns, you'll need it.
His excuse was 'oh you should have known cause we sent out a mailer' O.O

Not sure about the damages still though, that's in the figuring out stage.  When I'm not in the middle of several things and trying to burn onions I'll call and ask for that.

I'm not done with this by far, I talked to locals who were ticked at the spraying so gonna get something started here.

The AMAZING thing was, he admitted if we had bees the spray would kill them.  Flat out said it.  
Wow, wish you coulda recorded that call for your documentation @_@...
avatar
Zen

Posts : 1009
Join date : 2012-06-17
Age : 28
Location : United States West Coast

View user profile

Back to top Go down

default Re: My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

Post by Reamsie on Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:16 am

Samt03 wrote:His excuse was 'oh you should have known cause we sent out a mailer' O.O  
Yea, their idea of notification is to put a small blurb in those stupid newsletter like things that NOBODY reads, just throws away.

_________________
What fun is being cool if you can't wear a sombrero!--Calvin, Calvin & Hobbes

People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey... stuff.--The Tenth Doctor, Blink
avatar
Reamsie
moderator

Posts : 1481
Join date : 2008-05-02
Age : 46
Location : In the TARDIS

View user profile

Back to top Go down

default Re: My property was attacked with herbicide without my permission

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum