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Post by melodiccolor on Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:36 pm

We discovered an area we neglected to cover when we were figuring out our constitution; commercialism and spam. So here is a proposed amendment to the constitution. In a few days we will vote to ratify it; until then, it is open for comments.

On this forum, we encourage people to discuss things that excite them. This may include a product or service that they have used or enjoyed and think may be beneficial to others. On the other hand, posts which are attempts at sales (except links to original works from established members), or hook people into pyramid schemes, or something that the administrators and moderators or members think is "more than I would tolerate from my friends" stand in danger of being deleted, or locked. We do not view this forum as a place to be beset by rank commercialism or advertising. Be forewarned; when the rest of us have had enough, we will let people know, then act.


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Post by Logan (Earthmaiden) on Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:24 pm

Ya, I can definately see that happening here.

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Post by StrawberryLife on Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:53 pm

lol yeah, Merlin, I was guilty of it Smile lol!! Due to my over-excitability I guess... But by now y'all know me!! lol

Glad this is being discussed!!

What would be an 'original work of established member' - only a product or also a website etc? I would be comfortable with a link to eg someone's shop in her signature, or profile... (as long as it's a 'legit' site by an established member, perhaps reviewed & okay-ed by the admins first..?)
& new members might ask, 'what is an established member?' lol (In that case, we could say, contact an admin & ask, hm.)

Also, what about posting links to helpful or interesting websites? I was contacted by a forum on health & 'warned' for posting a link to a health site!! OMG!!
I don't want to see this forum to turn into one of 'those' forums... That allow no links whatsoever, even if they are really good info... like to drbookspan.com & ctds.info (See?! I don't even dare to post a link here!! Oh my!!)
What I mean is, sometimes there can apparently be a thin line between 'telling people enthusiastically about something' & 'selling/advertising'. So someone may seem to 'advertise' even when they're really not... /so IMO in practice it may be better to lock first, & maybe move thread, & communicate with the person, & only delete if absolutely necessary... But I don't mind the wording, as it may scare people more from doing it../

I understand the need to avoid spamming & viagra & all the unhelpful things... I'm glad the powers that be are working on this!! Smile

I'm properly scared of the last sentence so I think it's quite efficient!! Smile OoO It sounds very dangerous!! Though I'm not sure of the wording... It might scare away a more HSP-ish person? I mean, like, completely from the site-?!! (like me, lol. I would keep being afraid of making a mistake & 'blowing' it or something... IMO, it's not 100% defined what 'more than friends' would mean...?) Is the last sentence really necessary? (They are forewarned with the message already, no?)
It sounds like you would permanently ban someone. If that was implied, it should also be stated, & maybe beforehand already (together with other consequences).. I think that if someone continued to 'spam' people unsolicited (with viagra etc), either in public posts or PMs, it would probably be a good idea for them to be banned... (it could be a bot too, no?) but if they are human & apologize, maybe only temporarily after an appropriate number of warnings, if they did it again with regard to the same or similar site which was prohibited.
I think with legit sites it should be allowed to write something like, 'If someone is interested in this, contact me & I'll tell you more & give you a referral if you wish.. but do research it well 1st on your own..' if you're an established member..
Maybe you could add, 'If you are not sure, ask an admin or mod before you post.' (?) Maybe after 'be forewarned', if you choose to keep it... (?)
/Under these rules, I assume what I posted would not be tolerated-? Smile)
& I soo hoped I would make a fortune with referalls!! Shocked OoO

I really like the sentence before the last... & totally agree with it!!

Anyway, being a capitalist isn't easy!! Smile
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Post by reb on Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:49 pm

S,

YOU are now a CAPITALIST? mao tse tung became one, too at the end....OoO! and oOo! (second one reminds me of an indy car!) i thought communists turned into pumpkins if they even THOUGHT of becoming capitalists.....

after all that you wrote, uh, what, exactly, is gonna be your vote? lol!

personally, if someone started posting 'mary kay cosmetics' links, and then kept on after admins etc said 'knock it off', i'd vote to permanently ban them. go stick up circulars under car wipers at the mall; stuff envelopes for fun and profit; clean up elephant poop at the zoo; but don't try to make 1/100th of a cent off posting crap on our forum....jeez...how awful....
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Post by Justin Passing on Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:26 am

No one here's going to get upset about you or anyone else posting links to interesting things, commercial or otherwise Strawberry. It's sad people seem so addicted to "iron-clad rules". They're so artificial and obnoxious in my opinion.

If you were hanging out with friends, would there be a rule book with penalties all spelled out for unacceptable behavior? No - there wouldn't. If someone was being annoying, someone would tap that person on the shoulder and tell them to back off or cut it out. Would it be spelled out somewhere EXACTLY what that person would say, and in EXACTLY what circumstances? No - it wouldn't. Would the exact same thing happen in similar circumstances? Possibly, but probably not.

Do people really want this forum to act like some kind of arbitrary justice machine? Or are we simply a group of friends, acting like friends do? What's up with all this "can we spell out the violations and penalties exactly" stuff? Do you really want that kind of place?
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Post by Logan (Earthmaiden) on Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:18 am

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Post by melodiccolor on Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:13 pm

Merlin, lol. (If you really want, I can send a Mary Kay cosmetic link to your email....)

Strawberry, please consider the context of the statement. It is being inserted into a constitution that is set up to be situational. How we respond will depend on the individual circumstances and you are in no danger of being banned for posting as you do. But, say if someone were to come on to this forum solely for the purpose of spamming, we need the flexibility to deal with that too.

If you have something you want to share, that's fine, as long as it does not conflict with our host's rules. If you are not sure it's okay, pm one of us first, that's all.

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Post by reb on Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:31 pm

Merlin, you and i have internet access. we can both get our hot pink nail polish and black eye shadow with glitter straight from 'the lady with da pink caddy' Smile no goin' to town underdressed for us! Smile just don't use your daughter's wash cloth on your 'private areas' before you get the prostate checkup! might lead to the doc checkin' ya for hamsters yecchhh!
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Post by StrawberryLife on Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:15 pm

OMG This thread has gone bonkers enough!! bom Shocked geek

Reb, communist, capitalist, conservationalist, conversationalist... Smile I'm pretty much all your heart may desire Smile mrgreen headbang chuckle
/At least I try Smile/

Justin, I see what you mean. & you do have a point there.
Sometimes it seems good to be specific.. (especially for new members) I didn't know this would go into 'Constitution' though.. ('noone reads that anyway...' - ssssh!!Smile) Some forums have a set of rules/guidelines & specific things adressed, but yeah, I would prefer for this to be 'among friends' than some too-tightly-ruled up thing.. (& mostly no one reads those anyway either, until they are pointed out to them... Smile)

I agree a 'total spammer' would need to be removed/banned.. Personally I could tolerate Mary Kay links in a siggie, at least if they were from you, Merlin! Smile
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Post by melodiccolor on Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:39 pm

Lol, but that is what "constitutional amendment" means; to amend means to change a document.

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Post by Logan (Earthmaiden) on Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:39 pm

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Post by melodiccolor on Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:42 pm

big grin lol!

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Post by reb on Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:54 pm

SB, you said: 'Reb, communist, capitalist, conservationalist, conversationalist... Smile I'm pretty much all your heart may desire Smile mrgreen headbang chuckle
/At least I try Smile/'

i see...now that you find i use good quality cosmetics, you are more interested, whereas the billions were 'intersting' the cosmetics are the clincher of the deal.....you stay OUT of my eye shadow! lol!
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Post by Logan (Earthmaiden) on Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:06 pm

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Post by reb on Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:14 pm

Merlin, i meant SB....if you wanna use the lipstick, you feel free...just don't smear it on the mirror when you wipe your fingers....jeez...or on those white sailor boy pants...they'll throw you out of most of the bars in austin if you do that....
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Post by Logan (Earthmaiden) on Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:20 pm

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Post by StrawberryLife on Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:51 pm

OMG!!!! lol! indeed!!

You guys look absolutely positively smashing!!! Smile

gosh!! reb, busted!!! I can't resist a guy with his make-up on!! Now if he's wearing high heels too... Smile /Is now seriously considering marrying Merlin too... Smile/
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Post by Logan (Earthmaiden) on Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:36 pm

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Post by reb on Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:17 pm

SB, like the canada mounties, you has now got yer man! lol!
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Post by melodiccolor on Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:20 am

The amendment has now been put up for a vote.

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Post by reb on Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:48 am

here? i'm voting 'add the amendment as it stands'.
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Post by melodiccolor on Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:54 am

No, look above at the stickies. There is a voting poll.

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Post by StrawberryLife on Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:18 pm

lol, WOW, what an offer!! Smile

Merlin, I am deeply honoured & flattered & most dignifiedly humbled! Smile

/But will he wear high heels & pretty clothes & make-up all the time? hmm...???!!/
I think we must make a pre-nup!!!! Smile

Reb, jealous, are you? Smile No idea what you mean about canada mountains, dare to elaborate?
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Post by reb on Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:36 pm

as usual, the poll dint pull on 'view threads since last visit'. dint see it til i went to 'home' after the 'view' deal...cpu's....they're driving me batty. i'm glad i have one 'working' for 10 minutes after the last month's chaos....

SB, according to the 'legends' the canadian mounties always get their 'man'. officially, they are the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (blackle 'em if you want more detail-impressive uniforms, and history is even more impressive). i f you take Merlin up on this 'offer', and get mounted in this situation...need i say more? lol! it could be 'royal', but not 'canadian', and you may be hollering 'police' or ???? lol! rotflmao!
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Post by Logan (Earthmaiden) on Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:59 am

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Post by reb on Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:04 pm

Merlin, you dang sure don't need to 'slap' lol! there was no one there to begin with.....you be slappin yousef. and if not then, shortly....rotflmao....
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Post by StrawberryLife on Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:03 pm

Reb is hiding his hurt & wounded feelings, I see... /Reb, don't worry, we understand... Smile & will let you use Merlin's favorite lipstick to play with.. while we head off to our honeymoon... whee! /
Now, I shall have a month of chastity to make peace among the men of this board. Maybe a trip to Tibet would be in order... OoO

Dear Sir Merlin,
You sound like an Ideal Man. beatingheart flower

Will think of you all the while I am in Tibet, writing our prenup. (Maybe Reb can reinburse the costs? hmm...? mrgreen )

Any suggestions for the happiest day of our life & commencement of everlasting bliss? - Oh, there must be engagement first, I guess!! whee! A grande party with all our best friends from all 365+ online sites we're on Smile with champagne & outrageously yummy strawberry cake!!
Extra Happy

With passion,
Lady Strawberry

(We accept wedding gifts in the form of bonds, gold, high-yield stocks, fetish shoes, expensive jewelry & lipstick, designer dresses, cash & PayPal donations from July 23rd, okay? Cool Dear Sir, do you wish to include anything else? beatingheart flower )
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Post by StrawberryLife on Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:20 pm

Oh gosh,

Sorry to hear about it. My condolences.

Hope the aunts are okay.

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